All it took was a speakers panel and a bottle of a non-vintage rosé, and I was hooked. I had to capture a conversation with the people behind this magic. So, I reached out and sat down with Mireia Taribó and Tara Gomez, the owners and winemakers at Caymins 2 Dreams, a boutique winery in Santa Barbara County.

Our two-part 20-minute chat covered the concept of alternative grapes, winemaking Geo to Geo, how every parent has a favourite, and legacy.

Have a listen!